P.S.: If they stop chem-trails - AND I NEED TO SEE THAT BEFORE I BELIEVE IT- it may be that it was planned to stop, the desired effect is reached and next is the blending in of the Corexit that is still on its way to Europe.They make a lot of mistakes, but they ALWAYS, stubbornly and stupidly, follow the main agenda ;de-population and the same old,always functioning FEAR,TERROR,MURDER,WARS,MINDCONTROL (HAARP))etc. to keep us in a state of obedience and slavery to their protection.Or it may be that the information about their spraying has come to be known by more people than they expected; to a degree that is life-dangerous to them, actually what if we all knew that they are trying to poison our children,ourselves-and all of mankind, wouldn´t mankind do what is necessary to stop it??? Is that not the goal; that everybody shall know what is going on?And it seems that we may actually have been able to inform enough people to make politicians ,limited by their custom of finding new expresions that say either nothing or has two opposing logics in one sentence- understand the seriuosness of their CRIMES! Internet rules!JdV
---- Original Message -----From: JohnnyTo: Carol Coenca ; Asger Lindqvist ; Atle ; Barbara Lofaro ; Calvin Keats ; Elina Cullen ; Francois Rey ; Frank ; Henrik Palmgren ; Ian Crane ; Jarlen - Peter ; Jonathan Lindquist ; kamelslugeren ; Michael Murphy ; Mike ; Rolf ; Sheri ; SimonSent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:19 AMSubject: Re: How far does this get us?How far does it go? Well, Monsanto just bought Xe = Blackwater, that a.o., has 150.000 "civilian" soldiers/murderers in Iraq.(What will they use them for?) The spraying, besides making all humans and animals sick-and slowly killing us,kills millions of trees -and other growth are dying. Monsanto is killing all natural things so only their patented seeds exist. Monsanto has the money to buy the planes and personnel to implement the Chem-trail-spraying. If Monsanto is not behind it directly, then the fact that the powers that be are O.K.ing it, shows that they are part of THEIR agenda.-you know the de-population-agenda of Bilderberg, Trilateral commission and Council of foreign affairs (all owned by Rotschild and Rockefeller). Yes ANY politician should have this on top of their ambitions, denial to deal with it proves complicity ,I just realised I mentioned some names that can cause my deletion from the list, but, what sense is there in becoming the politicians ,instead of the politicians, if the system wherein we shall be politicians, is so flawed- and in itself designed to be so destructive and parasitic that it is anti-human???*** -and controlled by, those un-nameables ? Is it anymore probable that using the law (which THEY have made) will have any results on the public, considering the storms of dis-information and propaganda that they ,as a sign of "last twitches" ,is unleasing on that public? If it is, it should be done-not just be talked about. In my opinion we need to wake up to the fact that the humans are being attacked with numerous poisons. If governments do not shoot down these poisoners in the sky- it can not be our goverment-and their protests and propaganda is just the blabberings of sock-dolls. But I see that we will be many enough soon to have volunteers anywhere; f.ex. at air-ports to see if strange containers are there -or in companies with strange connections etc.Or from un-mannesd-droneinstallations wher fat ,pop-corn/coca cola-belching 17 years are playing war-games with real people in Afghanistan, and now, another un-declared war , in Pakistan. The leaders are ponerologists- and it is easy to identify the enemy in the future; they will be dressed in uniforms or suits and ties.My hopes are that the Universe is immense- and there are other forces than those we just see as the flickering shadows on the wall (illuminati)- above and among us- I know*** We need to fight on,leave all attempts at infiltration behind us and INFORM the public-as we do. Bye´ JdV*----- Original Message -----From: Carol CoencaTo: Asger Lindqvist ; Atle ; Barbara Lofaro ; Calvin Keats ; Elina Cullen ; Francois Rey ; Frank ; Henrik Palmgren ; Ian Crane ; Jarlen - Peter ; Johnny De Vulcan ; Jonathan Lindquist ; kamelslugeren ; Michael Murphy ; Mike ; Rolf ; Sheri ; SimonSent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:25 AMSubject: FW: How far does this get us?
In English as some of you are not Danes.
I forward the mail below and one link. Probably already many of you are already aware of this.
Geo Engineering technology is a fact.
The UN group acts as if they have no idea that aerosol spraying is already in full deployment above nearly all world nations.
Now I am becoming extremely concerned because there is mention of, quotes:
- Ocean Fertilization
- Solar Radiation Management Governance
- "This decision clearly places the governance of geoengineering in the United
Nations where it belongs" (as this was comforting news! when one knows the real agenda behind UN, it is in fact a shilling comment)
They are planning to throw iron particles in the oceans!!!!
Who knows if they are not doing it already? When you see all the chemtrails in the sky supposedly non existing but in fact being sprayed!
So here where we actually stand :
Geoengineering technologies in our skies
Geoengineering technologies in our oceans
Geoengineering technologies on earth and in food (GMO, Nanothech)
This is frightening. They are trying to poison the planet and all living creatures with it!
And in the name of Climate Change which is in reality a monstruous fraud! and should I remind you as well, in the name of the overpopulation threat playing card.
This kind of information has to go viral. They have to be stopped and brought to light in full view before their plan are in full operation. Maybe by alerting the very very ignorant population? By demanding explanations from our ministers who, as you can read, are aware of these kind of projects. Was the Danish minister in Japan? Should we ask him?
What do you think?
Did I understood right?
Blessings
Carol
U.N. urged to freeze climate geo-engineering projects
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/TOE69K02U.htm
> From: halva1@otenet.gr
> To: halva1@otenet.gr
> Subject: How far does this get us?
> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:15:25 +0300
>
> How far does this get us???? Is it part of our duty to tell the ETC people
> that atmospheric geoengineering is already a well-established planetary
> reality, as if they don't KNOW? Or should we assign another role to them
> other than to be the recipients of such protests??
>
> Wayne
>
> News Release
> 29 October 2010
> www.etcgroup.org
>
> Geoengineering Moratorium at UN Ministerial in Japan
> Risky Climate Techno-fixes Blocked
>
> NAGOYA, Japan - In a landmark consensus decision, the 193-member UN
> Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) will close its tenth biennial
> meeting with a de facto moratorium on geoengineering projects and
> experiments. "Any private or public experimentation or adventurism
> intended to manipulate the planetary thermostat will be in violation of this
> carefully crafted UN consensus," stated Silvia Ribeiro, Latin American
> Director of ETC Group.
>
> The agreement, reached during the ministerial portion of the two-week
> meeting which included 110 environment ministers, asks governments to ensure
> that no geoengineering activities take place until risks to the environment
> and biodiversity and associated social, cultural and economic impacts have
> been appropriately considered. The CBD secretariat was also instructed to
> report back on various geoengineering proposals and potential
> intergovernmental regulatory measures.
>
> The unusually strong consensus decision builds on the 2008 moratorium on
> ocean fertilization. That agreement, negotiated at COP 9 in Bonn, put the
> brakes on a litany of failed "experiments" - both public and private - to
> sequester atmospheric carbon dioxide in the oceans' depths by spreading
> nutrients on the sea surface. Since then, attention has turned to a range
> of futuristic proposals to block a percentage of solar radiation via
> large-scale interventions in the atmosphere, stratosphere and outer space
> that would alter global temperatures and precipitation patterns.
>
> "This decision clearly places the governance of geoengineering in the United
> Nations where it belongs," said ETC Group Executive Director Pat Mooney.
> "This decision is a victory for common sense, and for precaution. It will
> not inhibit legitimate scientific research. Decisions on geoengineering
> cannot be made by small groups of scientists from a small group of countries
> that establish self-serving 'voluntary guidelines' on climate hacking. What
> little credibility such efforts may have had in some policy circles in the
> global North has been shattered by this decision. The UK Royal Society and
> its partners should cancel their Solar Radiation Management Governance
> Initiative and respect that the world's governments have collectively
> decided that future deliberations on geoengineering should take place in the
> UN, where all countries have a seat at the table and where civil society can
> watch and influence what they are doing."
>
> Delegates in Nagoya have now clearly understood the potential threat that
> deployment - or even field testing - of geoengineering technologies poses to
> the protection of biodiversity. The decision was hammered out in long and
> difficult late night sessions of a "friends of the chair" group, attended by
> ETC Group, and adopted by the Working Group 1 Plenary on 27 October 2010.
> The Chair of the climate and biodiversity negotiations called the final text
> "a highly delicate compromise." All that remains to do now is gavel it
> through in the final plenary at 6 PM Friday (Nagoya time).
>
> "The decision is not perfect," said Neth Dano of ETC Group Philippines.
> "Some delegations are understandably concerned that the interim definition
> of geoengineering is too narrow because it does not include Carbon Capture
> and Storage technologies. Before the next CBD meeting, there will be ample
> opportunity to consider these questions in more detail. But climate
> techno-fixes are now firmly on the UN agenda and will lead to important
> debates as the 20th anniversary of the Earth Summit approaches. A change of
> course is essential, and geoengineering is clearly not the way forward."
>
> In Nagoya, Japan
> Pat Mooney: mooney@etcgroup.org (Mobile +1-613-240-0045)
> Silvia Ribeiro: silvia@etcgroup.org (Mobile (local): + 81 90 5036 4659)
> Neth Dano: neth@etcgroup.org (Mobile: + 63-917-532-9369)?
>
> In Montreal, Canada:
> Diana Bronson: diana@etcgroup.org (Mobile: +1-514-629-9236)
> Jim Thomas: jim@etcgroup.org (Mobile: +1-514-516-5759)?
>
> Note to Editors:
> The full texts of the relevant decisions on geoengineering are copied below:
>
> Under Climate Change and Biodiversity (UNEP/CBD/COP/10/L.36)
>
> 8. Invites Parties and other Governments, according to national
> circumstance and priorities, as well as relevant organizations and
> processes, to consider the guidance below on ways to conserve, sustainably
> use and restore biodiversity and ecosystem services while contributing to
> climate-change mitigation and adaptation:
> ....
> (w) Ensure, in line and consistent with decision IX/16 C, on ocean
> fertilization and biodiversity and climate change, in the absence of science
> based, global, transparent and effective control and regulatory mechanisms
> for geo-engineering, and in accordance with the precautionary approach and
> Article 14 of the Convention, that no climate-related geo-engineering
> activities[1] that may affect biodiversity take place, until there is an
> adequate scientific basis on which to justify such activities and
> appropriate consideration of the associated risks for the environment and
> biodiversity and associated social, economic and cultural impacts, with the
> exception of small scale scientific research studies that would be conducted
> in a controlled setting in accordance with Article 3 of the Convention, and
> only if they are justified by the need to gather specific scientific data
> and are subject to a thorough prior assessment of the potential impacts on
> the environment;
>
> [1] Without prejudice to future deliberations on the definition of
> geo-engineering activities, understanding that any technologies that
> deliberately reduce solar insolation or increase carbon sequestration from
> the atmosphere on a large scale that may affect biodiversity (excluding
> carbon capture and storage from fossil fuels when it captures carbon dioxide
> before it is released into the atmosphere) should be considered as forms of
> geo-engineering which are relevant to the Convention on Biological Diversity
> until a more precise definition can be developed. Noting that solar
> insolation is defined as a measure of solar radiation energy received on a
> given surface area in a given hour and that carbon sequestration is defined
> as the process of increasing the carbon content of a reservoir/pool other
> than the atmosphere.
> AND
>
>
> 9. Requests the Executive Secretary to:
> ..
> (o) Compile and synthesize available scientific information, and views and
> experiences of indigenous and local communities and other stakeholders, on
> the possible impacts of geo-engineering techniques on biodiversity and
> associated social, economic and cultural considerations, and options on
> definitions and understandings of climate-related geo-engineering relevant
> to the Convention on Biological Diversity and make it available for
> consideration at a meeting of the Subsidiary Body on Scientific, Technical
> and Technological Advice prior to the eleventh meeting of the Conference of
> the Parties;
> (p) Taking into account the possible need for science based global,
> transparent and effective control and regulatory mechanisms, subject to the
> availability of financial resources, undertake a study on gaps in such
> existing mechanisms for climate-related geo-engineering relevant to the
> Convention on Biological Diversity, bearing in mind that such mechanisms may
> not be best placed under the Convention on Biological Diversity, for
> consideration by the Subsidiary Body on Scientific Technical and
> Technological Advice prior to a future meeting of the Conference of the
> Parties and to communicate the results to relevant organizations;
>
> Under New and Emerging Issues UNEP/CBD/COP/10/L.2 :
>
> 4. Invites Parties, other Governments and relevant organizations to
> submit information on synthetic biology and geo-engineering, for the
> consideration by the Subsidiary Body on Scientific, Technical and
> Technological Advice, in accordance with the procedures of decision IX/29,
> while applying the precautionary approach to the field release of synthetic
> life, cell or genome into the environment;
>
> Under Marine and Coastal Biodiversity UNEP/CBD/COP/10/L.42
>
> 13 Reaffirming that the programme of work still corresponds to the global
> priorities, has been further strengthened through decisions VIII/21,
> VIII/22, VIII/24, and IX/20, but is not fully implemented, and therefore
> encourages Parties to continue to implement these programme elements, and
> endorses the following guidance, where applicable and in accordance with
> national capacity and circumstances, for enhanced implementation:
>
> (e) Ensuring that no ocean fertilization takes place unless in accordance
> with decision IX/16 C and taking note of the report
> (UNEP/CBD/SBSTTA/14/INF/7) and development noted para 57 - 62;
>
> Impacts of ocean fertilization on marine and coastal biodiversity
> 57. Welcomes the report on compilation and synthesis of available
> scientific information on potential impacts of direct human-induced ocean
> fertilization on marine biodiversity (UNEP/CBD/SBSTTA/14/INF/7), which was
> prepared in collaboration with United Nations Environment Programme-World
> Conservation Monitoring Centre (UNEP-WCMC) and the International Maritime
> Organization in pursuance of paragraph 3 of decision IX/20;
> 58. Recalling the important decision IX/16 C on ocean fertilization,
> reaffirming the precautionary approach, recognizes that given the scientific
> uncertainty that exists, significant concern surrounds the potential
> intended and unintended impacts of large-scale ocean fertilization on marine
> ecosystem structure and function, including the sensitivity of species and
> habitats and the physiological changes induced by micro-nutrient and
> macro-nutrient additions to surface waters as well as the possibility of
> persistent alteration of an ecosystem, and requests Parties to implement
> decision IX/16 C;
> 59. Notes that the governing bodies under the London Convention and
> Protocol adopted in 2008 resolution LC-LP.1 (2008) on the regulation of
> ocean fertilization, in which Contracting Parties declared, inter alia, that
> given the present state of knowledge, ocean fertilization activities other
> than legitimate scientific research should not be allowed;
> 60. Recognizes the work under way within the context of the London
> Convention and London Protocol to contribute to the development of a
> regulatory mechanism referred to in decision IX/16 C, and invites Parties
> and other Governments to act in accordance with the Resolution LC-LP.2(2010)
> of the London Convention and Protocol ;
> 61. Notes that in order to provide reliable predictions on the potential
> adverse impacts on marine biodiversity of activities involving ocean
> fertilization, further work to enhance our knowledge and modelling of ocean
> biogeochemical processes is required, in accordance with decision IX/16 (c)
> and taking into account decision IX/20 and LC-LP.2 (2010);
> 62. Notes also that there is a pressing need for research to advance our
> understanding of marine ecosystem dynamics and the role of the ocean in the
> global carbon cycle;
> Geopiracy: The Case Against Geoengineering is a new publication by ETC Group
> that provides an overview of the issues involved.
>
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